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bobfrankish
Unread post  Post subject: Mask leaks  |  Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:58 am

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I have been a CPAP user for many years now. I have severe sleep apnoea, when tested I was stopping breathing 65 times a minute! My equipment is provided on a free-loan basis (sorry to everybody that has to pay for theirs!) by a sleep centre in Leeds, UK. For the last few years it has been the Resmed CPAP machine (can't remember the model, Escape?) but it was a fixed pressure unit, and a Resmed Mirage full face mask. I have always had a short-cropped beard and moustache. It's fair to say that I have been aware of mask leaks on many occasions - usually the rasping noise which wakes me up, and sometimes the unpleasant leaks into the eyes. Despite this, I get a good night's sleep and am symptom free. Last week my equipment was upgraded to the Resmed AirSense 10 Auto Elite CPAP machine and the Resmed Quattro Air mask. This unit has a sleep report function. The first night I used the new equipment, I was woken up by the mask leaking. I adjusted it and went back to sleep. I checked the sleep report next morning and it gave me a green smiley face against the mask leak. All is great, I thought. I love the new machine, it is quieter than the old one, and the new mask feels great (as per Jason's review). Unfortunately, that is the one and only time I have had the green smiley. The machine has a mask fit feature. When I use this, it is virtually impossible to get the green smiley (indicating correct mask seal) whilst holding the mask to my face. So it does not matter how much I adjust the straps when the mask is fitted. If I hold the mask onto my forearm, I can get it to seal and give me a green smiley. My sleep technician says the new mask was the correct fit for me. I have a brand new Mirage mask that I kept as a spare, and have tried this on the new machine with identical results. My question is this.. Should I try shaving my beard off and see if I can get a perfect (green) mask seal, or is a small amount of mask leakage acceptable and normal? Any comments would be gratefully received. (sorry for the length of this post!)


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask leaks  |  Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:35 pm
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bobfrankish wrote:
when tested I was stopping breathing 65 times a minute!

I'm pretty sure your breathing was stopping 65 times an hour, ;) not good, but I've seen people well over 120 times an hour.

bobfrankish wrote:
My sleep technician says the new mask was the correct fit for me. I have a brand new Mirage mask that I kept as a spare, and have tried this on the new machine with identical results. My question is this.. Should I try shaving my beard off and see if I can get a perfect (green) mask seal, or is a small amount of mask leakage acceptable and normal? Any comments would be gratefully received. (sorry for the length of this post!)


'sleep technicians' are notoriously wrong about things, download a fitting guide off the internet and make sure you've got the right size mask.

And, yes, beards are notorious for creating leaks.

Also, 'small amount of leakage', you're not getting that if you're getting red frowny face, you're getting a LOT of leakage.

Download sleepyhead and see what the night's leaks look like.

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bobfrankish
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask leaks  |  Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:04 am

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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I meant 65 times an hour! Thank you for correcting me! So... Since Thursday when I first posted, I have had 2 green smiley faces in the morning, The first was on Sunday, and I wondered if it was because my beard was not as short as I normally have it (I normally give it a good trim on Monday morning) and was flattening down easier. So I deliberately left it long on Monday. Yesterday morning - red face, so I trimmed my beard as usual. Today, yippee! green face. I really don't know exactly what is going on.


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask leaks  |  Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:34 pm
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The red face means you were in excessive leak territory for more than 30% of the night... so leaks are pretty bad before the frowny face comes up.

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