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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:54 pm
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Gosim wrote:
If you look from 6.30 onwards that is when I was using the Amara View. Previous to that I was using a F&P Simplus

If you zoom in, I bet you'll find that those high RRs are just sleepyhead miscounting breaths, like I said above.

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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:07 pm

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I like to right click on 'flow rate' and turn on the zero dotted line. but, you can see about 13-14 exhalations in that about minute timeframe...

What's your flow limitations look like on the simplus?

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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:38 am

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Im not sure if the zero worked but no flow limitations!!!!


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Also the pressure had gone up to 16 which I have it capped to . It would no doubt have gone higher if I had increased the max.


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There's no zero line... If it had, there'd be a red line right at zero, so it's easy to tell where the flow went above and below zero.

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I used the Amara View for the whole night .

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The Resp. Rate is much lower and where there has been a pressure increase the reason for it is clear.

I can get a Dreamwear with free return insurance this weekend so may give that a try

It does seem that a hybrid mask is a good option


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:38 am

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I have discovered that when using conventional full face masks the strange waveforms and high resp. rate occur when im sleeping on my side. When Im sleeping on my back the waveforms are normal and the resp .rate is greatly reduced.
Using the Amara View and the Dreamwear the waveforms and resp. rate is normal during the night.


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:58 am

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The trouble is that both the Amara View and the Dreamwear full face masks are too painful to use. The divider between the mouth and nasal opening digs in to my right nostril. Ouch!!
I think the combination of a left polyp and a septum deviating to the right makes these types of mask unsuitable. Its a shame as I do like the Dreamwear and, apart from the pain, I did feel better using it


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Since being upgraded to a Airsense 10 I have been more aware that my mouth is closing .
I dont mean at my lips but being blocked at the back of my mouth. This blockage causes the air to be forced
into my partially blocked nose which causes pain and discomfort during the day,
So going back to the original question how to keep my mouth open??


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:09 am

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Keeping your mouth open would result in a VERY dry mouth and throat. You may need to crank up the humidity to compensate.


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I dont have any choice


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I have read some where in the UK that using CPAP and a Oral Device together is being used. This would seem to be perfect for me.
Is this being used on your side of the pond?


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:18 am

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I have started to use the Oracle mask but at present I can only use it about 3 hours before I switch to a conventional FFM mask.
During those 3 hours, last night, the pressure was much lower ,max 14.2, but when changing to a Simplus the maximum pressure which 19.93.
This reduction in pressure when using the Oracle has occurred on every night I have tried it.


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Keeping mouth open  |  Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:27 am

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The final answer is to inhale a couple of puffs of Ventolin ( Salbutamol) before sleeping. This is reducing my 95% pressure to more reasonable levels


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