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jaimecruz
Unread post  Post subject: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:42 pm

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I have ResMed machines, travel too, and with both after I go to sleep I end up blowing air through my mouth, and it gets really dry, what is the problem?, I have thought to regulate the air pressure


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optimalsleep
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:25 pm

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PAP Mask: have a couple.... resmed p30i
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Buy a chin strap or a full face mask. I have one that puts pressure under your lip upper pressure on jaw.


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LSAT
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:18 pm

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PAP Mask: F & P Vitera
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If you are using a nasal mask and open your mouth, you lose all your therapy...The air goes out your mouth rather that open your airway. You need to tape your mouth closed, use a chinstrap or switch to a full face mask.


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jaimecruz
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:25 pm

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I was usin a Philips dreamstation and hand no problem with that, could it be that my new machine needs adjustment?


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optimalsleep
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:12 pm

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Jamie..... we suggest you list your equipment on your profile and also OSCAR

https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

so we can get a better idea of what your therapy is progressing.


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DeltaBravo3.8
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:31 pm
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Location: Greencastle, Pennsylvania, USA
PAP Mask: ResMed F20 N30i P30i, soon to have F&P Vitera
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Machine setting adjustments may be what's needed. However, do not adjust without data being observed like you'd find on OSCAR. You can end up with poor therapy and no leaks. It's still a bad situation IMO.

But I don't think that's the first action to consider. If you are using nasal or pillows mask types and breathe or leak air out your mouth, there's a few options to consider.
1. you could retrain your tongue to remain in the natural sealed position like when awake, this would be a Google assignment, I've not mastered this
2. use tape or a chin strap, I've heard of one called Knightsbridge Dual Band that pulls up only, there's other options as well, again Google can be your friend
3. if either 1 or 2 fail or you don't want to do them, full face mask is your option then, I use full face from ResMed, the F20, the negative is full face means more real estate to seal and more places to leak

I always believe pressure edits to minimize leaks also means you are compromising therapy. That's why I do not recommend downward adjusting to avoid leaks of any type.

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optimalsleep
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:19 pm

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On point 1..... side sleep with a tennis ball in a pocket tshirt on backwards.


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Pugsy
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:47 pm
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Side sleeping won't stop necessarily stop mouth breathing so even if someone could actually sleep with tennis balls digging into their backs....it won't stop mouth breathing.

Full face masks won't stop dry mouth either but will at least reduce the chance of sub optimal therapy do to loss of therapy pressure out the mouth since the mouth is now part of the pressurized circuit when a full face mask is used.

To fix dry mouth issues from mouth breathing you have to stop the mouth breathing. Keep the mouth shut somehow....no matter what sleeping position someone is in. I have woke up mouth breathing and I am on my side many times....been there and done that.

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optimalsleep
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Open Mouth  |  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:03 am

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go ahead and delete the other "on point one" and your post if you wish.

Thanks


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