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ksj4477
Unread post  Post subject: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:07 am

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I've been using a CPAP machine (Respironics Dreamstation) for about 4 months and have had very disappointing results. I've tried a bunch of different masks and the doctor keeps messing with pressures and I have yet to have any good results, I always wake up tired with bags under my eyes. I just looked at my Sleepy Head data for the first time in awhile and noticed a ton of Vibratory Snores and VS2's even though I'm not snoring according to my wife. I use a nasal mask with a chin strap and bite guard to prevent mouth leaking and seems to be working because I have been sleeping. I was just to my doctor on Friday and she is suggesting I see an ENT about sinus surgery even though she never looked in my nose so maybe this has to do with the VS and VS2's? I'm at a loss here. The last 2 months on this CPAP machine has been the worst of my life and have reached my boiling point. :x I hope someone can help me.

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Keith


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:23 pm
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raise your max pressures, you're fighting for air all night long, and the machine wants to go higher.

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ksj4477
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:07 pm

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My Dr. just dropped my pressures from 11-15 and they looked the same at those pressures. See attachment.


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:30 pm
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VS2 is sort of a mystery.
http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 2#p1182872
While the machine will respond to regular snores with more pressure it won't VS2.

I am not sure that even if you used 20 cm fixed all night long that the VS2 snores would reduce. I have seen people try and nothing seems to help.


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:15 pm
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ksj4477 wrote:
My Dr. just dropped my pressures from 11-15 and they looked the same at those pressures. See attachment.

Hmm, let me see if I can get behind the logic here... "machine is registering snores, Machine is maxing out pressure, Patient reports being tired still... I KNOW!!! LET'S LOWER THE PRESSURE!"

Nope, not a clue.. sorry.

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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:37 pm
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SURGERY?
Ouch!
Any way you can change doctors?
If it were me, I would want to give cpap a good chance before jumping on an operating table.

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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:21 am

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diamaunt wrote:
ksj4477 wrote:
My Dr. just dropped my pressures from 11-15 and they looked the same at those pressures. See attachment.

Hmm, let me see if I can get behind the logic here... "machine is registering snores, Machine is maxing out pressure, Patient reports being tired still... I KNOW!!! LET'S LOWER THE PRESSURE!"

Nope, not a clue.. sorry.



I agree although the high pressures have been tough to get used to and I felt a little better on lower pressures which doesn't make sense either. I guess the Dr. is basing the lower pressure off of this. I just increased my max pressure to 20 last night to see what would happen and it was running at 14cm 90% of the time. It doesn't make sense because when my max pressure was at 15 it ran at 15 90% of the time. I haven't had a chance to look at the Sleepy Head data from last night to see is the VS's have decreased.


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ksj4477
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:26 am

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Chunkyfrog wrote:
SURGERY?
Ouch!
Any way you can change doctors?
If it were me, I would want to give cpap a good chance before jumping on an operating table.


I've had cronic sinusitus for years so they feel my sinuses are restricting the flow and I'm not having luck with mouth breathing with a full mask. I'm going to see an ear throat nose specialist to get their opinion so it's not up to my sleep Dr. More then likely I will need surgery because I can tell my sinuses are swollen and my breathing is somewhat restricted.


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ksj4477
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:47 pm

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So the last two nights I increased my pressure range to 13-20 and had some good results. I still have quite a few VS's but definitely not as bad as before (see attached). I also feel like I'm sleeping better and have a little more energy, especially today. Of course I received a phone call this afternoon from my medical equipment provider saying my Dr. wants my pressures changed to 8-12 for a weeks time to see what that does for me :cry: . They also asked me if I've been changing my pressures :oops: and if I have then I shouldn't because it's messing up the test data that the Dr. is trying to collect. Anyways I emailed my Dr. and told them that I have been having better results with the higher pressure range so we will see what they say. Thanks for the help!


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:10 am
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If needed, remind the doctor who's working for whom... :D

Snores usually mean you're having trouble inhaling, so you're having to work harder for the air, which means you're not going to get as much rest... working makes it hard to rest, after all :D

So it makes sense that you'd feel better if you get the snores tamed.

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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:05 am

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That's the truth. We will see how they respond. Last night was the first night with the Dr's 8-12 pressures. I woke up twice snoring and my wife hear me snoring at least one time. Everything makes sense what you are saying.


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:50 am

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My Dr ended up turning my pressures back up to where I wanted them and I feel good again. Thanks everyone!


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Unread post  Post subject: Re: Vibratory Snore???  |  Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:04 am
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My Dr ended up turning my pressures back up to where I wanted them and I feel good again. Thanks everyone!

The old paradigm was "doctor knows best, blindly follow doctor".

What's becoming more and more clear is "doctor offers a starting point, but a patient that takes control results in a better treated patient."

Remember who's paying who, learn, and be in control, you'll be better off.

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