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DaveL
Unread post  Post subject: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:44 pm

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I use a nasal pillows mask. Dreamwear

I have had to modify the headgear. Before I modified it, I found that I woke up frequently in the night to see if my mask was leaking. It seemed to move around a lot. (Maybe it's my bald spot that makes it slip around. ;)

I took the strap from my last dreamwear, and added it immediately below the one that came with my new mask. Yes. Two Velcro attached straps.

It seems to work well.

So my nightly ritual is to

-put on my chin strap.
-put on my dreamwear; slide one strap low to my neck; position the second strap higher on the back of my head
-connect the hose, and as I breath my ResMed turns on.

Should I keep doing this? Or should I look for a new mask?


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:10 pm
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DaveL wrote:
It seems to work well.... Should I keep doing this? Or should I look for a new mask?

that's entirely up to you... getting something that works well is the goal.

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DaveL
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:12 pm

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I've had 4 Dreamwear. I won't buy another. I have a sore under my nostril. Numbers are worse than when I started using my first one


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Ursego
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:27 pm
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DaveL wrote:
I use a nasal pillows mask. Dreamwear
Dreamwear is a NASAL mask, not NASAL PILLOW mask (https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-dreamwear-nasal-cpap-mask-headgear.html). It's important to select the correct option in the CPAP because those types have different internal air volume (less in P and more in N) which is taken into account by the algorithms.


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:01 pm
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Ursego wrote:
DaveL wrote:
I use a nasal pillows mask. Dreamwear
Dreamwear is a NASAL mask, not NASAL PILLOW mask (https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-dreamwear-nasal-cpap-mask-headgear.html). It's important to select the correct option in the CPAP because those types have different internal air volume (less in P and more in N) which is taken into account by the algorithms.

you're entirely wrong about all of that.

as far as resmed is concerned, it's *pillow* mask, because it doesn't cover the nose, like a nasal mask would.

and the pillow/nasal/full face setting has nothing to do with the volume of the mask. it has to do with the flow resistance.

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Ursego
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
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I's very easy - in DreamWear, nothing is inserted into the nostril. DreamWear is nasal mask (not pillows) exactly in the same way as Amara View is 100% full face mask (not full face hybrid as RespCare or Mirage Liberty). The type of the mask is always written in the description and on the bag, so it's nothing to argue about.


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:52 am
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Ursego wrote:
I's very easy - in DreamWear, nothing is inserted into the nostril. DreamWear is nasal mask (not pillows) exactly in the same way as Amara View is 100% full face mask (not full face hybrid as RespCare or Mirage Liberty). The type of the mask is always written in the description and on the bag, so it's nothing to argue about.

in your faulty understanding of the situation, you've neglected one simple yet crucial element.

resmed makes the definitions of what resmed machines call nasal/pillow/ffm, and a wholly different, unaffiliiated company is making the dreamware, and putting whatever they want on the package.

ASSuming that respiorincs is naming their product so that it properly aligns with resmed definitions is foolish.

Respironics puts a X number on their masks, resmed doesn't.

it has nothing to do with whether the mask has a centering cone.

and nasal pillow masks don't "insert into the nostril", if you want something that inserts into the nostrils, then look at a wholly different class of masks called "nasal prong" masks.

however, since you have no understanding whatsoever about the function of the system one resistance control value, OR the function of the mask fit settings on a resmed machine, it doesn't really matter.

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kmoney
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:39 am

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I was told by the sleep technician that the Dreamwear is a nasal mask as well, and that my Resmed 10 should be on the nasal setting, not nasal pillow.

That's how I've always had it and haven't had much issue.

Now, this has me wondering if I should switch it and see if I notice any difference.


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:13 am
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the differences are small, I've measured them with a manometer, the pillow setting raises the pressure at the machine a little higher than the nasal setting, to compensate for the higher flow resistance that the smaller openings in the pillow mask present compared to the larger opening of the nasal mask.

it's doubtful that you'll be able to notice any difference, but you could measure it.

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DaveL
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Mask headgear--DreamWear  |  Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:41 pm

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Thanks for comments; I had 4 dreamer masks. When I heard that setting should be nasal pillows, I changed it for the 4th mask. I didn't notice any change in sleep quality.
I had a couple of Wisp masks before. I have a sore under my right nostril from the Wisp. It continued to be a problem during the time I had 4 dreamer masks. That's about 2 years.
I changed to an N20 about 4 months ago. Sore is finally very slowly going away. I would have it burned off, but couldn't wear a nasal mask while it would heal. Hope it finally goes away.


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